It was one of the more memorable moments from a forgettable presidential debate, and the person responsible for it wishes it had never happened.

Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden said he now regrets referring to President Donald Trump as “a clown” during the first square-off of the two men running for president. Why did it happen? He told Lester Holt of NBC that he got caught up in the moment.

“I should have said this was a clownish undertaking instead of calling him a clown,” Biden said.

The insult- and interruption-laden event felt more like a roast at times than a debate. The term “mutual respect” is not one that would be used to describe the proceedings, but it’s not like anyone expected it either.

“It was just very difficult. I didn’t want to further demean the process,” Biden added.

Biden made these comments at an evening town hall on Monday, Oct. 5. The outdoor event, which aired on both NBC and MSNBC, took place in Miami in the swing state of Florida, and moderator Lester Holt told viewers that all of the attendees were undecided voters. The first question for Biden was about President Trump’s departure from Walter Reed Medical Center after being diagnosed and treated for COVID-19. In his response, Biden stated that he thought the president bears responsibility for contracting the virus.



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