Thursday’s episode of the PBD podcast featured a sit-down with author and civil rights activist Bob Woodson. Woodson, a noted leader in the Black community, runs a nonprofit research group that works to revitalize low-income neighborhoods across the country.

Together with Patrick Bet-David and “Biz Doc” Tom Ellsworth, Woodson recounted the history of race relations in the United States and discussed the real reasons for poverty and inequality in the country.

Here are a few of the standout moments from the latest episode:

1. “It’s Not a Race Problem in America” – The Real Reason Black People are Struggling

For decades, but especially within the last 10 years, race relations have deteriorated in the United States. Groups like Black Lives Matter argue that systemic racism and inherent biases prevent Black people from succeeding, ensuring that minority communities stay trapped in poverty…but Woodson says this isn’t true.

As a man who grew up in the 1940s, Woodson saw the true face of racism and segregation, and he celebrates how much better things are now. “People have good memories but poor judgment,” he said. “Look at the evidence! When Whites were at their worst, we were at our best.”

From marriage rates and family structure to education and business formation, the Black community worked hard to strengthen itself in the post-slavery era. But once the Civil Rights Movement morphed into “the Racial Grievance Industry,” everything took a turn for the worse.

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2. “Black Treason” – Malcolm X’s Warning About the White Liberal

In the years before his death, civil rights leader Malcolm X frequently warned the Black community about the threat of the “white liberal” who used them as a political football. Woodson, who met with Malcolm X and Martin Luther King Jr. during the Civil Rights Movement, took this warning a step further. “Black elected officials commit treason against their own people by using race to deflect attention away from their own failures,” Woodson said.

Even in cities run by primarily Black leadership, Black people still struggle with poverty, failing education, and broken families. But while activist groups blame it all on “police brutality,” Woodson has observed that a sleeping giant is starting to wake up in low-income communities. If Republicans can finally recognize the genuine emotion behind racial conflict, he believes that the Democratic Party’s hold on the Black population could be broken forever.

3. “The People Destroying America” – The Reason for American Division

With race relations deteriorating and communities suffering all across the United States, people are eager to find someone to blame. Even Woodson has no problem calling out the people “genuinely interested in destroying this country.”

At the center of the push to implement communism or socialism in this country is an agenda of racial grievance.  “America’s birth defect of slavery is being used to demean the country,” Woodson said. “Only Black Americans can take that moral authority away.”

But when it comes to identifying who exactly is to blame for the problems in the US, Woodson argued that it almost doesn’t matter. Instead of wasting time figuring out who’s standing against us, he believes it’s more important to begin rallying those who stand with us.

But that’s not all Bob Woodson discussed with Patrick Bet-David. Check out the full episode for more on BLM’s true agenda, the success stories of former slaves, and the crisis in Israel.

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