In this episode of the PBD Podcast, Patrick Bet-David sits down with Ian Bremmer, geopolitical scientist and founder of Eurasia Group. Bremmer, a World Economic Forum speaker, gives insights into the WEF’s annual Davos meeting, as well as his interactions with Klaus Schwab, Trump’s 2024 election win, and the Top 10 global risks of 2025.

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Episode Summary

Debunking Deep State Conspiracies and the Role of Davos

Bremmer, who has spoken at the World Economic Forum (WEF) for over 15 years, dismissed the notion that the forum is secretly controlling world affairs. He argued that while the WEF brings together influential figures, it does not dictate global policy or serve as a hub for a so-called “deep state.” Instead, he defended globalization, stating that its benefits far outweigh the negatives.

Despite criticism of the WEF and other elite gatherings, Bremmer believes the push for a “Great Reset” is often misrepresented. Rather than a globalist conspiracy, he views it as an economic response to rapid technological changes and shifting global power structures.

Trump’s 2020 Election and the Role of Elon Musk

One of the more provocative claims in the discussion was Bremmer’s assertion that Trump would have won the 2020 election even without support from figures like Elon Musk, Joe Rogan, or Tulsi Gabbard. He argued that Trump’s influence and ability to tap into voter frustration made him a formidable candidate, regardless of endorsements.

However, he also criticized Trump’s leadership, particularly his “scattershot” use of power, calling some of his decisions among the most irresponsible in presidential history. He highlighted the damage done to democratic credibility under Trump’s administration while acknowledging the growing dissatisfaction with political elites, which has fueled anti-establishment sentiment worldwide.

The Fragmentation of Global Politics

Bremmer noted that the world is becoming increasingly fragmented, with social media amplifying political polarization. He pointed out that many recent elections around the world have resulted in incumbent losses, a trend he attributes to lingering frustrations from the pandemic.

Discussing international politics, Bremmer made several key observations:

  • China’s Technological Rise: He acknowledged China’s advancements in technology, positioning it as a competitor to the U.S. in global influence.
  • Russia and Ukraine Conflict: He noted that Trump’s approach to foreign policy, particularly regarding alliances and military spending, challenges traditional geopolitical dynamics.
  • Economic Disruptions: Tariffs, supply chain changes, and economic fragmentation have altered the balance of power, with some industries benefiting while others struggle.

The Future of American Politics

The discussion also touched on the potential for a third-party movement in U.S. politics. While historically, third-party candidates have struggled, Bremmer sees the growing disillusionment with both major parties as an opening for new political movements.

He also weighed in on the potential for Biden to win re-election, suggesting that Biden would struggle more than Trump in a rematch. However, he noted that candidates like Josh Shapiro might have an easier time running as Democrats since they are not tied to the incumbency disadvantages that Biden and Harris face.

Conclusion

Throughout the conversation, Bremmer emphasized that political and economic institutions must evolve to address the concerns of ordinary citizens. He acknowledged that elites wield significant influence but warned against seeing them as a monolithic group controlling world events. The real challenge, he suggested, is ensuring that globalization and economic policies benefit the broader population rather than just those at the top.

As the world faces increasing geopolitical tensions, technological advancements, and economic uncertainties, the role of leadership—both in the U.S. and globally—will be crucial in determining the future direction of democratic governance.

Highlights & Standout Moments

1. “I’ve Been To Bilderberg” – Ian Bremmer BREAKS DOWN Global Elite’s Control Of America

Ian Bremmer joins Patrick Bet-David to discuss the concept of the Deep State, globalism vs. globalization, and the power dynamics shaping U.S. politics. They break down special interest influence, political fundraising disparities, and the hidden forces driving policy decisions. A must-watch deep dive!

2. “Klaus Schwab’s Great Reset” – WEF Speaker Ian Bremmer DEBATES World Economic Forum’s Davos Meeting

Patrick Bet-David and Ian Bremmer break down the World Economic Forum, Klaus Schwab, and the controversy surrounding global elites. They discuss the “Great Reset,” media narratives, and power dynamics at Davos. Is the WEF just a networking event, or does it hold real influence? A deep dive into global power.

3. “USSR Lied To EVERONE!” – Ian Bremmer REVEALS Soviet SECRETS & Communist PROPAGANDA LIES

Patrick Bet-David and Ian Bremmer discuss growing up in tough environments, early experiences with global politics, and how travel shaped their worldviews. From Soviet-era Russia to culture shocks abroad, they reflect on life-changing moments, economic contrasts, and personal journeys in this engaging conversation.

4. “Trump WILL Hit Mexico HARD” – Ian Bremmer WARNS Of Economic CHAOS From Trump’s Tariffs Plan

Patrick Bet-David and Ian Bremmer break down the heated debate on tariffs, globalization, and economic strategy. They discuss Trump’s tariff plans, their impact on inflation, and how tariffs could reshape trade. Should the U.S. increase tariffs and lower taxes? A must-watch conversation on economic policy and power.

5. “51 Intel Officials LIED! – Ian Bremmer EXPOSES The Biggest Election Cover-Up In U.S History

Ian Bremmer and Patrick Bet-David take a retrospective look at the Hunter Biden laptop story, analyzing how it was systematically suppressed by the media with the help of the intelligence apparatus.

6. “Trump Wants To END Wars” – Ian Bremmer Drops TRUTH BOMBS On Trump’s Foreign Policy Plans

Patrick Bet-David and Ian Bremmer break down Trump’s strategy on tariffs, AI competition, and global politics. They debate U.S.-China tensions, Trump’s leverage with Elon Musk, and the impact of populist movements worldwide. Is the establishment losing control? A must-watch on power, influence, and leadership.

7. “Deep State Doesn’t Care About You” – Ian Bremmer REVEALS Trump’s The Political Elite’s BIGGEST Fear

Patrick Bet-David and Ian Bremmer examine the Democratic Party’s future, the global trend of incumbents losing power, and whether Trump’s victory was inevitable. They break down economic struggles, political shifts, and the role of public perception in shaping elections worldwide. A must-watch deep dive into leadership and policy.

8. “Dark MAGA vs. Deep MAGA” – Ian Bremmer BREAKS DOWN Trump’s Globalist vs. Populist Wings

Patrick Bet-David and Ian Bremmer break down Nixon’s economic legacy, China’s rise, and Trump’s evolving stance on tariffs and globalization. They debate whether Deep MAGA or Dark MAGA is shaping the future of U.S. policy. Is Trump disrupting the system for good? A deep dive into power, policy, and economics.

9. “Trump Wins WITHOUT Musk, Rogan & RFK” – Ian Bremmer Explains Why Trump Was DESTINED To Win 2024

Patrick Bet-David and Ian Bremmer analyze Trump’s 2024 victory, the impact of key endorsements, and whether DeSantis could have won in an alternate scenario. They break down economic trends, media narratives, and global instability to assess the political landscape and the future of leadership.

10. “Destroyed Their Credibility” – Ian Bremmer TORCHES Establishment Media’s Credibility Crisis

Patrick Bet-David and Ian Bremmer discuss how social media disrupted mainstream media, political narratives, and public trust. They explore Trump’s impact, media bias, and how global populist movements are rising. Has the establishment lost control of the message? A must-watch deep dive into power and influence.

11. “This Is NOT The American Dream” – Ian Bremmer’s BRUTAL Take On The Decline Of The United States

Patrick Bet-David and Ian Bremmer explore how U.S. influence shaped the Soviet collapse, the evolution of American identity, and why today’s political divisions are deeper than ever. They discuss class mobility, media fragmentation, and whether the U.S. can unite again. A powerful discussion on history and the future.

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