Patrick Bet-David welcomed former FBI Agents Garret O’Boyle and Steve Friend on the PBD Podcast on Thursday.
Here are some of the highlights (click here to watch the entire episode) …
1. Patrick Bet-David opens the episode with some background information on Garret and Steve, asking them at what moment they ultimately decided to risk their entire livelihood to expose the FBI.
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O’Boyle: “For me, it got to a point where there had been numerous things in the FBI that I saw over the short time I had been in it, and it boiled down to a conversation I ended up having with my wife, and I think it was roughly October of 2021, and I said, ‘this agency truly doesn’t care about doing the right thing – I know that that is the main talking point of the FBI and they drill into your head fidelity, bravery and integrity from day one and we see it on tv shows and we’re all led to believe that this institution is beyond reproach and it’s not.”
Friend: “I never really had the thought of ‘I’m going to become a whistleblower.’ I’ve always prided myself as being a professional and going about my job the right way – my motto is ‘paint the fence.’ These type of atrocities and civil rights violations only happen when law enforcement is out of control, it becomes a weaponized apparatchik of a politicized arm of the government.” He continued, “I had concerns once I was rolled from child pornography investigations into domestic terrorism.”
2. Patrick brought up the controversial discussion of the late sexual predator Jeffrey Epstein and the unanswered questions surrounding his client list, Ghislaine Maxwell and the overall investigation.
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O’Boyle: “I don’t have any personal knowledge of that but I would bet not a whole lot, but who was the prosecutor assigned to Ghislaine’s case? James Comey’s daughter. In law enforcement I learned quickly that there’s not very much coincidence. I’m at a point, especially combined with my faith, I don’t believe in coincidence at all, I think it’s all happening for a reason. Why is that story not front and center until we find out about every single person on that list? But we don’t ever hear about it.”
Friend: “I think that they have to avoid the temptation of the Trump investigation where they look to headquarters and start a task force there for people who haven’t investigated crime for a very long time. I would get somebody like Garret who has no connection there to do the work that he’s been doing his whole career.”
3. In an attempt to break down the corruption within the FBI, Adam Sosnick asks O’Boyle and Friend just how many rotten apples are within the justice system – are there apples or is it the whole tree that is “rotten to the core?”
Friend: “I’m back to the disconnect between rank and file and the management class, and the fact that those guys have to go back and forth to D.C. all the time and their priorities are for their self-promotion and not for the good of the American people. They’re not about the casework. I think there are people that do genuinely good work in the FBI – I think that that work can be done by other people just as effectively so, if you ask me you made king for a day then the FBI wouldn’t exist anymore.”
O’Boyle: “I think at a minimum, you have to clean house the whole, all of headquarters – definitely the seventh floor, probably all of headquarters, you have to clean it out and start from scratch, but a lot of the people who get attracted to the managerial positions in the FBI, that type of person who likes the D.C. life and the notoriety attracts too many people who care too much about the politics.”
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